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Old 10-08-2008, 02:01 PM
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The UN General Assembly voted Wednesday to ask the International Court of Justice (ICJ) to rule on whether Kosovo's unilateral secession from Serbia is "in accordance with international law."

The vote in the 192-member assembly on a Serbian resolution seeking support for the referral was 77 in favor, 74 abstentions and six against.

The ICJ, the principal judicial organ of the United Nations which is based in The Hague, rules on disputes between sovereign states.

The resolution decided to request the ICJ to render an advisory opinion on the following question: "Is the unilateral declaration of independence by the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government of Kosovo in accordance with international law?"

Approval of the text by General Assembly required a simple majority.

Introducing the resolution, Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremic described it as a bid by his country "to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity through diplomacy and international law."

"To vote against (the resolution) would be in effect to deny the right of any country now or in the future to seek judicial recourse through the United Nations system," he added ahead of the vote.

Jeremic later hailed adoption of the ext, saying: "It is a great day for international law." He particularly thanked those countries which backed the resolution.

Cyprus, Greece, Romania, Slovakia and Spain voted in favor but the 22 other members of the European Union, which have all recognized Kosovo's independence, abstained in the vote.

US delegate Rosemary DiCarlo, in explaining her no vote, said the text was "unnecessary and unhelpful."

Britain's UN Ambassador John Sawers, like many other speakers, reaffirmed his country's support for the ICJ but also noted that the "Serbian request is primarily for political rather than legal reasons."

"It is designed to slow down Kosovo's emergence as a widely recognized independent nation playing its part in the international institutions of the world," he added.

"The United Kingdom also regrets the lack of substantive debate within the General Assembly on the draft Resolution, including on the context and formulation of the question, and on the desirability of signaling, in the interests of fairness, that Kosovo should be allowed to present its arguments to the Court," Sawers said after the vote.

Some 48 countries, including 22 EU members and the United States, have so far recognized the decision by Kosovo's ethnic Albanian majority to declare unilateral secession from Belgrade on February 17.

But Serbia, which aspires to join the EU, still considers Kosovo one of its provinces and Russia, a veto-wielding member of the UN Security Council, has strongly backed its ally Belgrade in the dispute.

France's UN Ambassador Jean-Maurice Ripert, whose country currently chairs the EU, said Paris was determined to help Serbia in its quest for a future within the pan-European bloc.

He also pointed out that the EU was keen to play a leading role in bolstering stability in the Balkans, notably through the deployment of the rule of law mission to Kosovo dubbed EULEX.

"France encourages the Serbian government to develop a constructive approach regarding EU efforts to contribute to peace and stability in the Western Balkans," Ripert told the assembly.

A Western diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity, said one of the purposes of the resolution was "to park the Kosovo issue in (Serbia's) domestic politics in order for (the government) to pursue the strategic goal of joining the EU."

He said it could take the ICJ up to two years to make a ruling on the legality of Kosovo's independence.

Ethnic Albanian-majority Kosovo has been administered by the United Nations since 1999 when it was wrested from Belgrade's control in a NATO air war.
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Perhaps now is the time to merge Kosova and Albania?
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Perhaps now is the time to merge Kosova and Albania?
Reality check NR, that would be worse.
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Reality check NR, that would be worse.
Worse in what way? because it might alienate some of our allies? or do you oppose the unification of Kosova and Albania?
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Worse in what way? because it might alienate some of our allies? or do you oppose the unification of Kosova and Albania?
Man I am a nationalist , I want to conquer all Balkans and rename it Illyria.

BUT

For Albania and Dardania to unite you need the backing of our big allies, and in the current situation they can't do it, because they have a lot of problems on their own (elections, economy, Obama pro-serbogreek)

Then our neighbours would scream about great Albania and a lot of start trying to change borders on their own.

Then we have another problem : the politicians are far from each other. How do you merge Albanian and Dardan parties? It would be a mess. And would someone from Berat vote for Haradina? I don't think so.

The institutions are already weak, merging those of two separate countries is a long process.

There's a lot more to say.

The funny thing though is that Russia and China would never oppose it since Russia just expanded and China will surely annex Taiwan very soon.
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Man I am a nationalist , I want to conquer all Balkans and rename it Illyria.

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For Albania and Dardania to unite you need the backing of our big allies, and in the current situation they can't do it, because they have a lot of problems on their own (elections, economy, Obama pro-serbogreek)

Then our neighbours would scream about great Albania and a lot of start trying to change borders on their own.

Then we have another problem : the politicians are far from each other. How do you merge Albanian and Dardan parties? It would be a mess. And would someone from Berat vote for Haradina? I don't think so.

The institutions are already weak, merging those of two separate countries is a long process.

There's a lot more to say.

The funny thing though is that Russia and China would never oppose it since Russia just expanded and China will surely annex Taiwan very soon.
With Obama in the White House it will never happen. With McCain in the White House then he will back us up.
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With Obama in the White House it will never happen. With McCain in the White House then he will back us up.
What I said baby. But Obama is winning these elections, though he won't last another term.
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What I said baby. But Obama is winning these elections, though he won't last another term.
Funny that we discuss such things while in reality we are losing our lands and peoples to the Greeks, slavs and mass migration.

If it wasn't for the Kosovars doing their part and making lots of babies Ethnic Albania would be a non-issue.
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Funny that we discuss such things while in reality we are losing our lands and peoples to the Greeks, slavs and mass migration.

If it wasn't for the Kosovars doing their part and making lots of babies Ethnic Albania would be a non-issue.
I am tired of your nihinilism. In this shitty world, every Balkan country has lots of problems much worse than ours. It's midnight here so if you want I can explain another time.

Meanwhile get your business back home whre they need YOU, otherwise better not complain.
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I am tired of your nihinilism. In this shitty world, every Balkan country has lots of problems much worse than ours. It's midnight here so if you want I can explain another time.

Meanwhile get your business back home whre they need YOU, otherwise better not complain.
The word that you are looking for is "nihilism". And I was stating the truth. Not my point of view. Ethnic Albania is under attack and we, for the time being, are losing. We are losing parts of the South, Montenegro and the serbs are tenaciously clinging to Kosova. None of these are my personal opinion but facts.

Cameria is lost, Montenegro north of Ulcin is lost and unification of Albanian lands is made impossible by OUR politicians and will never be a reality, and don't get me started on what religion is doing to our people. No personal opinions here just facts.
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