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panglossa
08-16-2008, 09:24 AM
Hello again!

My doubts now are about possessive pronouns.

1) simple possessive
my mother = ime nėnė
my father = im atė
my house = shtėpia ime
my dog = qeni im
(right?)

his mother = i nėna (?)
his father = i ati (?)
her mother = e nėna (?)
her father = e ati (?)
his house = shtėpia e tij (?)
her house = shtėpia e saj (?)
his dog = qeni i tij (?)
her dog = qeni i saj (?)
(?)

Well, number 2) will come soon... :)

panglossa
08-16-2008, 09:30 AM
I am really committed to learning Albanian; please tell me if I am being annoying...

Ralph.T.Pika
08-16-2008, 10:26 AM
I am really committed to learning Albanian; please tell me if I am being annoying...
Not at all, im sure someone will respond!

_AuLoNa_
08-16-2008, 11:04 AM
Hello again!

My doubts now are about possessive pronouns.

1) simple possessive
my mother = ime nėnė=ime mė
my father = im atė=babai im
my house = shtėpia ime /right
my dog = qeni im /right
(right?)

his mother = i nėna (?)=nėna e tij
his father = i ati (?)= babai i tij
her mother = e nėna (?)= nėna e saj= e jėma
her father = e ati (?)= babai i saj= ati i saj
his house = shtėpia e tij (?) right
her house = shtėpia e saj (?) right
his dog = qeni i tij (?) right
her dog = qeni i saj (?) right
(?)

Well, number 2) will come soon... :)


Good luck!

panglossa
08-16-2008, 11:01 PM
Thanks _AuLoNa_ !

Much simpler than I had figured out ;)

panglossa
08-16-2008, 11:05 PM
As promised, here goes nŗ 2):
How do I use a possessive and an adjective at the same time?

My guesses:

Your new house: shtėpia jote e re
My old dog: qeni im i vjetėr
His new computer: kompjuteri i tij i ri


There is more to come...

Jokerr
08-17-2008, 07:03 PM
As promised, here goes nŗ 2):
How do I use a possessive and an adjective at the same time?

My guesses:

Your new house: shtėpia jote e re
My old dog: qeni im i vjetėr
His new computer: kompjuteri i tij i ri


There is more to come...
Sounds about right to me.

panglossa
08-18-2008, 01:19 PM
Thank you Jokerr!

panglossa
08-18-2008, 01:22 PM
Now, I have a number and a possessive and an adjective; like:

My two new books = dy librat e mi e rinj (???)

KorƧare_
08-19-2008, 01:10 AM
My two new books = dy librat e mi e rinj (???)


Dy librat e mi tė rinj.

You forgot the 't'. :)

panglossa
08-19-2008, 10:38 AM
Dy librat e mi tė rinj.

You forgot the 't'. :)

After the first adjective, the following ones have "tė" regardless of gender, number, case or definiteness, is it that?
I remember of reading something about it, but I am not sure.

Klee
08-19-2008, 03:55 PM
"te" is the article for adjectives which correspond to PLURAL nouns - regardless of the nouns gender, sim. :)


However, I would always have used the word order:

Noun Adjective PossessiveP rather than Noun PossessiveP Noun. Guys???!

Shtepia e re ime APO shtepia ime e re ?!?!

Klee
08-19-2008, 03:56 PM
Ahhh welll - always was bad at it hahaha...

Jokerr
08-19-2008, 04:01 PM
Shtepia e re ime APO shtepia ime e re ?!?!

I thinks it's the latter.

AlbSweetnesssss
08-19-2008, 04:04 PM
"te" is the article for adjectives which correspond to PLURAL nouns - regardless of the nouns gender, sim. :)


However, I would always have used the word order:

Noun Adjective PossessiveP rather than Noun PossessiveP Noun. Guys???!

Shtepia e re ime APO shtepia ime e re ?!?!

That's the correct one

panglossa
08-19-2008, 06:04 PM
"te" is the article for adjectives which correspond to PLURAL nouns - regardless of the nouns gender, sim. :)


However, I would always have used the word order:

Noun Adjective PossessiveP rather than Noun PossessiveP Noun. Guys???!

Shtepia e re ime APO shtepia ime e re ?!?!

Just found it:
Sing. Def. Masc.
nom.: i
acc.: e
dat./gen./abl.: tė

Sing. Def. Fem.
nom.: e
acc.: e
dat./gen./abl.: sė

Sing. Indef. Masc.
nom.: i
acc./dat./gen./abl.: tė

Sing. Indef. Fem.
nom.: e
acc./dat./gen./abl.: tė

Plural Def. Masc./Fem.
nom./acc.: e
dat./gen./abl.: tė

Plural Indef. Masc./Fem.
nom./acc./dat./gen./abl.: tė

[Makes me remember German... :S ]

If I use numbers and possessives, then the noun is definite; that is why I first thought I should use 'e' instead of 'tė'.

panglossa
08-19-2008, 06:07 PM
Immediately after the table I found this:

"(...) When the adjective does not immediately follow the noun, the form is always 'tė' except for the nominative masculine ('i') and nominative feminine ('e') in singular."

That solves the question ;)

panglossa
08-19-2008, 06:09 PM
Btw., the grammar I am using is the one found in the beginning of "Readings in Albanian, Part 1" by L. Newmark and others.

Klee
08-20-2008, 07:18 AM
Ah good oh - serves me right for always guessing haha! Cheers!

panglossa
08-20-2008, 09:31 AM
Well, in my opinion the advice of a speaker of the language is more important than books.
That is why I think I will be bothering you with my doubts for a long time yet ;)