Will you make your children learn Albanian??

[Tirona s Finest]

well ive been in London for around 12 years now
means i left Albania when i was 6 years old
to go to school then you would have to be around 5-6 years old
thus i never attended an Albanian school
fortunately for me my grandmother would teach me how to read and write from a young age and when we moved here they sent books to me like the good old Abetare (sa fort te dua me ato shkronjat e tua haha )lol !!

although ive spent 3/4 of my life in a foreign country i am proud to say that i know how to read and write Albanian fluently (maybe a mistake here and there) lol

in my opinion.. i want my children to be able not only to speak and understand but also to write and read Albanian and i will make them learn if its the last thing i do!!!

what opinions do you guys have?
is it ok for our children just to speak and understand but not read and write?

:D

[Tirona s Finest]

its unacceptable for your children to simply learn the language, u must teach them to read and write, they have to know to read and write so well that they are going to open their own universities in kosova and shqiperia to teach albanians

yeh thats gonna have to be the case lol
i just posted a comment in another thread ill post here too...

the sad thing is ... you just have to turn on your satelite tv (DigitAlb) n tune into the News and hear something like this...

News speaker : "...tensionet midis dy LEADERAT arriti kulmin bla bla..." (just made that up)
but u get the picture
this is the NATION'S NEWS!!!
and they seem to have forgotten the word udheheqes..
now its not just this.. its words like :
Shopping .. ??? iku fjala pazar...
show.. ?? iku fjala shfaqe

lol
i dont want my child to be one of those children saying one albanian word for every 5 english words lol
(even thought i do it myself at times)
but not when he/she is talking to others and i most definately dont want my child not to be able to communicate with my family and lose contact with the albanian culture!

[Tirona s Finest]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tjEMgPn6cA&NR=1

bravoooooooo!!!



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[Kastraveci_nones]

What Albanian doesn't speak Albanian at home? :S I won't need to make my kid learn it he'll just pick it up just like every other Albanian I know has picked it up.

[Tirona s Finest]

What Albanian doesn't speak Albanian at home? :S I won't need to make my kid learn it he'll just pick it up just like every other Albanian I know has picked it up.

if they grow up in an environment where they have to speak another language.. the parents have to put in the effort to get them speaking it..
personally the thing that has helped me most is the Albanian satelite channels
when we first got it a few years ago i reeeeeally could not understand what they were saying on the news
they were talking to fast
since then ive come a long way.. but its not liek i did not know how to talk in the first place im saying that learning two languages is overwhelming for young children..
my little cousin in America would only speak Albanian at home.. since she has started pre-school n all that my uncle says she only speaks english
:s

[Ralph.T.Pika]

Of course my kids will speak read a write Albanian, ive lived outside our homeland all my life, but ill leave the kids Albanian lessons to my wifey, shes got the grammar down pact! Without doubt my kids will speak Albanian, they dont have a choice!!

[_AuLoNa_]

Definitely, I taught other children that came through my house learn and speak Albanian, not mine if I have any. Plus children are like sponges they learn languages quickly, but the only thing that is important just keep them continue, because they can forget it as quick if not practiced.

[alboboy10]

Kids don't forget languages easily. I never had a problem with remembering languages, but i have a good memory. My kids will speak Albanian, ose do hajn dru.

(God forbid i don't get hit by a truck or something and don't get the chance to have kids)

[_AuLoNa_]

Kids don't forget languages easily. I never had a problem with remembering languages, but i have a good memory. My kids will speak Albanian, ose do hajn dru.

(God forbid i don't get hit by a truck or something and don't get the chance to have kids)

That is because in your family you speak your language, but if parents change the way that they communicate in the house children do forget the language.

I have a few children that come from different albanian household. While some can't talk the albanian even though their parents speak albanian at home, or parents try to speak english with children so the child won't have difficulties in school, which is further from teh truth, casue the child does better the more languges they speak.

Another one speaks fluent Albanian, greek, English and he is taking spanish as well in school. He was only 3 years old when he came over here, and was born in Greece. This kid learned Albanian when he stayed at my household for a while. The funny part was that he was talking in the lapce dialect...:D

[_AuLoNa_]

thats the bad part, when they are born in greece, they might identify as greek and not albanian, ti e din qfar muta jan grekt edhe qysh i assimilojn shqiptaret

Nahhh, he knows he's albanian. You can't help it where you are born as long as your parents teach the child with the good values of their identity.

[~sweet_shqipe~]

yes my kids will learn albanian

[Erizzo]

My kids are learning as we speak. Gjuha jone eshte me e bukur!

[Zemra T.]

Kids don't forget languages easily. I never had a problem with remembering languages, but i have a good memory. My kids will speak Albanian, ose do hajn dru.

(God forbid i don't get hit by a truck or something and don't get the chance to have kids)

your not laying a finger on my future niece/nephew..

(i get to call em that right?? :o)

[Kosovari1]

I hope Phelps gets stabbed before his swim tomorrow.

[Zemra T.]

....was that necessary? :(

dont hate (on his body) llosh!!

[Kosovari1]

Im fuming of jealousy right now.

I hope he drowns on his last stroke.

[alboboy10]

your not laying a finger on my future niece/nephew..

(i get to call em that right?? :o)

yea you can call them that, doesnt mean that they wont get their a$$ beat though...u can listen to them crying and whining and help them with their belt wounds on their backs though

lmao

I hope Phelps gets stabbed before his swim tomorrow.

give him a knife, ask him who's special and he'll do it himself.

[Zemra T.]

yea you can call them that, doesnt mean that they wont get their a$$ beat though...u can listen to them crying and whining and help them with their belt wounds on their backs though

lmao



give him a knife, ask him who's special and he'll do it himself.

Iv never been beat..how did i turn out?


Lloshi..i understand..ill be a bit more sensative next time. lol

[alboboy10]

Iv never been beat..how did i turn out?
Lloshi..i understand..ill be a bit more sensative next time. lol

Idk, let's give you a beating and see if you turn out even better :D

[_AuLoNa_]

....was that necessary? :(

dont hate (on his body) llosh!!

I know he looked so great. Did you see his swimming costume was down all the way, a little bit more and it would've been a surprize...;):D

[Zemra T.]

Idk, let's give you a beating and see if you turn out even better :D

:mad: you could try!!

ps..actually i lied..i remember my mom smacking my bottom a few times when i was really young..thats the most beating iv gotten but it hurt!!

I know he looked so great. Did you see his swimming costume was down all the way, a little bit more and it would've been a surprize...;):D

Lol..yea i did.
I remember when i my gfs and i were like 16 we were obsessed with him during the sydney olympics..we just laugh about it now.

[alboboy10]

I know he looked so great. Did you see his swimming costume was down all the way, a little bit more and it would've been a surprize...;):D

Ok relax...breathe.

I don't know if anybody ever told you this, but the pool water makes things shrink.

[Hugh G Rection]

i will FORCE my kids to learn albanian and speak it for the rest of their lifes

[Kosovari1]

Ok relax...breathe.

I don't know if anybody ever told you this, but the pool water makes things shrink.

A lot of chlorine has been proven to infringe your urinary tract.
You and I we got abnormal ones so we're cool.

[~sweet_shqipe~]

....was that necessary? :(

dont hate (on his body) llosh!!

why else would you watch swimming :confused: :D

[kapllani]

I think it's necessary to learn how to read and write in albanian. When children use the language only orally they would probably be able to speak simple albanian, but if they wanted to express something more complex they would have to use the foreign language, their vocabulary in this language would be richer because they have attended local schools in that language.
Prandaj asht e randsishme me i mësue fëmijtë qi nga vogjëlia të shkruejnë a të lexojnë qi ta pasunojnë gjuhën e tyne. Une nuk pata fatin ta frekuentoj nji shkollë në gjuhën t'eme edhe kam qenë i dëtyruem m'i përsëritë të gjithat ma vonë, por në moshën ma të pjekun asht gjithmon ma vështirë me u mësue të lexosh e të shkruesh.

[Tirona s Finest]

I think it's necessary to learn how to read and write in albanian. When children use the language only orally they would probably be able to speak simple albanian, but if they wanted to express something more complex they would have to use the foreign language, their vocabulary in this language would be richer because they have attended local schools in that language.
Prandaj asht e randsishme me i mësue fëmijtë qi nga vogjëlia të shkruejnë a të lexojnë qi ta pasunojnë gjuhën e tyne. Une nuk pata fatin ta frekuentoj nji shkollë në gjuhën t'eme edhe kam qenë i dëtyruem m'i përsëritë të gjithat ma vonë, por në moshën ma të pjekun asht gjithmon ma vështirë me u mësue të lexosh e të shkruesh.

yerp defo
my cousin lives in Greece and is 4months younger than me.. we've been in different countries for roughly the same time yet although she can speak and understand she cannot read or write and although like i said she can speak... she always asks "cfare do me thene ajo.. bla bla " lol

but yeh..the problem is that so many people have lost it.. howww are they gonna pass it to their children
and with all the mixing of dialects and ways fo speaking... its going to be more difficult..
i have a friend who is from Tirana.. he hangs around alot with guys from Shkodra... Tropoja.. Dibra.. basically north Albanians.. and he is soooo hard to understand when he speaks Shqip ! lol

[kapllani]

I know it is sometimes very difficult to understand people from other areas, but you must also consider that we have something like the literary language which is used on TV and most of the albanians can speak in a way. I think parents outside should learn their children their own dialect as good as they can and if they aren't able to understand an northern albanian (like me, hehe) for example it's not worse, you see even native albanians can't understand every dialect (eveywhere it's the same).

PS: Dialects are also a treasure for our language so they shouldn't be regarded as barrier to learn our mother tongue.

[Kastraveci_nones]

if they grow up in an environment where they have to speak another language.. the parents have to put in the effort to get them speaking it..
personally the thing that has helped me most is the Albanian satelite channels
when we first got it a few years ago i reeeeeally could not understand what they were saying on the news
they were talking to fast
since then ive come a long way.. but its not liek i did not know how to talk in the first place im saying that learning two languages is overwhelming for young children..
my little cousin in America would only speak Albanian at home.. since she has started pre-school n all that my uncle says she only speaks english
:s

Actually thats the best time to teach somone a lot of languages. when you are around the age of 3-7 or somthing like that. your mind grasps the languages a lot easier. scientifically proven.

[alboboy10]

What do you mean 2 languages is over whelming? I knew two languages by the time i was 5-6 (greek albanian), and i understood italian but couldn't speak it...and by the time i reached 12 i learned english too.

Languages don't overwhelm you unless you don't practice them.

My bro for example had to learn english right when he started speaking his first words in albanian, and then he started stuttering...so the doctor suggested we teach him one language for the time being....but thats the only time they can be over whelmed really

[ShkodraneDreq90]

Yup my kids will definitly speak albanian for sure, actually that will be the first language they will learn from me
and i am gonna try my best to teach them how to read and write it aswell!!

[Tirona s Finest]

What do you mean 2 languages is over whelming? I knew two languages by the time i was 5-6 (greek albanian), and i understood italian but couldn't speak it...and by the time i reached 12 i learned english too.

Languages don't overwhelm you unless you don't practice them.

My bro for example had to learn english right when he started speaking his first words in albanian, and then he started stuttering...so the doctor suggested we teach him one language for the time being....but thats the only time they can be over whelmed really

so you still know those languages?
cos the same thing happened to me
i knew Italian at a young age.. came here to the UK and now i can barely understand it
i mean that children loose interest and switch easily to antoher language so for example he/she wil prefer to speak only english.. and it goes downhill from then...

[alboboy10]

italian i only knew cause i used to watch a lot of seria a soccer, some cartoons (anime) that they had in italian, formula 1 and some other things on tv....at the time everything was in italian in tv i dont know it now..cause i nevr actually learned it
greek i can still understand and speak if i really want too, although i havent spoken it in over 10 years, i choose not to speak it i feel very awkward speaking it...
Albanian i have no problems with

[Tirona s Finest]

italian i only knew cause i used to watch a lot of seria a soccer, some cartoons (anime) that they had in italian, formula 1 and some other things on tv....at the time everything was in italian in tv i dont know it now..cause i nevr actually learned it
greek i can still understand and speak if i really want too, although i havent spoken it in over 10 years, i choose not to speak it i feel very awkward speaking it...
Albanian i have no problems with
:D :D
hahaha
yerp
i use to watch Sailor Moon back in the day lol
use to be at 8pm when the news was on so i would beg my grandad to let me watch it
:p

[alboboy10]

I used to watch dragonball with little goku and "oli e bengie" a soccer cartoon

i knew a girl who looked like sailormoon, everybody thought i was gonna end up with her some day lol

[LEKA1MADH]

"oli e bengie" a soccer cartoon
lol

holy shit i fvcking miss that show, i used to watch it EVERY DAY in albania lol BEST CARTOON EVER


i wish it gave it here :(

[alboboy10]

holy shit i fvcking miss that show, i used to watch it EVERY DAY in albania lol BEST CARTOON EVER

i wish it gave it here :(

The game was pretty cool too, i used to get really excited when they did the double kick...or when the goalie kicked of the post to catch the ball

lol it's pathetic how fake the game was but how much i liked it

i still sing the song sometimes "che championi oli e bengie, championisimi" bla bla haha

[_AuLoNa_]

so you still know those languages?
cos the same thing happened to me
i knew Italian at a young age.. came here to the UK and now i can barely understand it
i mean that children loose interest and switch easily to antoher language so for example he/she wil prefer to speak only english.. and it goes downhill from then...

As I said to another post if you do not practice a language you tend to forget it, not all of it though.

The same thing happened to me, I spoke Italian fluently when I went to Greece. There I started speaking Greek, and I came to USA and started speaking English. I can understand Italian perfectly, but very hard to speak it. If I go to Italy and stay there for 2 months it can come back to me.

[Tirona s Finest]

I used to watch dragonball with little goku and "oli e bengie" a soccer cartoon

i knew a girl who looked like sailormoon, everybody thought i was gonna end up with her some day lol

haha
them were the dayss lol
when you could watch cartoons 24/7 without a care in the world
:p

[alboboy10]

haha
them were the dayss lol
when you could watch cartoons 24/7 without a care in the world
:p

Well those were a certain time of the day...those cartoons and stuff played during the afternoon hours, when i had to go home anyway otherwise my aunt would come get me and beat my a$$ lol
anyway, i went to sleep during the afternoon for an hour, watched those shows and stayed out all day...stole fruits from trees, stole dogs, played soccer, hide and seek, dodgeball...threw each other on girls and copped feels and then we got smacked, sneaked and peeked at people te liqeni gjat shen valentinin doing each other haha

those were definitely the days

[liverpool]

Yup my kids will definitly speak albanian for sure, actually that will be the first language they will learn from me
and i am gonna try my best to teach them how to read and write it aswell!!easier said than done.no matter how hard you try albanian will always come second.they may learn to speak it properly but not good enough at writing it.there will always be something there which wil give the child away as someone born outside albania. this may not be the case with some families and their children but majority can suffer. the only time our children get to speak or practise albanian is while on holiday back home with family and friends, even these times are limited but it helps if it happens on regular basis.children born abroad of parents who do not speak the country's language tend to naturally teach and make better progress than those parents who speak e.g english . my son's interest in abetare is zilch in spite of our encouraging efforts in persuading him about the importance , etc.It gets worse if you have siblings as they always chat in the language the are taught at school. the impact of the long school hours and limited time with parents as well as lack of communication or deviation because of modern gadgets makes it vey challenging and frustrating at the same time. I initally spoke only english to my kid , later i knew i was mistaken and subsequently instead of dy my son says du, uli for ylli and so on. I rely now on visits to albania to make up for lost time.