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shqypni
11-02-2007, 08:45 AM
www.fshf.org (02.11.2007) - Pasi ka rene parimisht dakord me presidentin e fedetaes se futbollit per te drejtuar edhe dy vjet kombetaren Otto Baric ka nisur menjehere punen e tij per edicionin e ardhshme. Baric ka patur nje takim me Presidentin e Republikes Bamir Topi ku kane diskutuar rreth lehtesimit te dhenies se neshtesive per lojtare shqiptare. Vete trajneri Baric u shpreh: Pata nje takim me presidentin i cili u tregua i gatshem per te ndihmuar kombetaren per te dhene nenshtesine shqiptare per lojtare te cilet po i ndjekim ne vendet fqinj. Nderkohe trajneri kuqezi ka deklaruar se firma ne kontrate do te vije perpara ndeshjes me Bjellorusine. Kontrata eshte perpiluar me presidentin e FSHF-se Armand Duka dhe do te firmoset perpara ndeshjes me Bjellorusine. Trajneri Otto Baric do te qendroje ne Tirane deri diten e diele. Te shtunen ai do ndjeke nga afer derbin ndermjet Dinamos dhe Tiranes.
This is good news .. players will get passports much faster. Moisiu didnt give a shit and thats why some many players chose other countries
Llapian
11-02-2007, 01:24 PM
This was a great initiative from Baric!
bLoOdYeAgLe
11-02-2007, 01:29 PM
www.fshf.org (02.11.2007) - Pasi ka rene parimisht dakord me presidentin e fedetaes se futbollit per te drejtuar edhe dy vjet kombetaren Otto Baric ka nisur menjehere punen e tij per edicionin e ardhshme. Baric ka patur nje takim me Presidentin e Republikes Bamir Topi ku kane diskutuar rreth lehtesimit te dhenies se neshtesive per lojtare shqiptare. Vete trajneri Baric u shpreh: Pata nje takim me presidentin i cili u tregua i gatshem per te ndihmuar kombetaren per te dhene nenshtesine shqiptare per lojtare te cilet po i ndjekim ne vendet fqinj. Nderkohe trajneri kuqezi ka deklaruar se firma ne kontrate do te vije perpara ndeshjes me Bjellorusine. Kontrata eshte perpiluar me presidentin e FSHF-se Armand Duka dhe do te firmoset perpara ndeshjes me Bjellorusine. Trajneri Otto Baric do te qendroje ne Tirane deri diten e diele. Te shtunen ai do ndjeke nga afer derbin ndermjet Dinamos dhe Tiranes.
This is good news .. players will get passports much faster. Moisiu didnt give a shit and thats why some many players chose other countries
Bamir Topi was, idk if he still is, the President of FK Tirana. Since he's a die hard soccer fan, hopefully he'll give his contribution in renovating our national team.
SpTironc
11-02-2007, 01:52 PM
He is the President of KF TIRONA :)
shqypni
11-03-2007, 01:15 PM
http://www.albaniasoccer.com/al/upload/images/1194022857.jpeg
alboboy10
11-03-2007, 08:57 PM
Hopefully now Idrizaj will get his citizenship and play for Albania.
Too late, he's already played for austria, either way, i doubt he will play for us
alboboy10
11-03-2007, 10:06 PM
Yea i know, he's played for the u21 and he can still play for us, but he hasn't shown any REAL interest in playing for Albania while other players that HAVE shown interest, don't play for us....I.E. Valon Behrami
he has only played for austria u21 damm how many times do i have to say it. he can still play for albania but i dont know if he will
no he cant play for albania,since the rules of fifa prohibit to change the national team,no matter he played for the A national team or the u21 national team.in the fifa rules,there is one exception:if a player,for example idrizaj possessed the albanian citizenship,before he played for the austrian national team,than he can play for albania.but he never possess the albanian citizenship...and as i once read,he declared,that he don't want to play for albania...
shqypni
11-04-2007, 08:07 AM
Who does Idrizaj want to play for? Austria?? LMAO they are one of the worst in Europe today
Who does Idrizaj want to play for? Austria?? LMAO they are one of the worst in Europe today
yes,he wants to play for austria!
alboboy10
11-04-2007, 11:22 AM
Who does Idrizaj want to play for? Austria?? LMAO they are one of the worst in Europe today
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 11:28 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Idiot, it has nothing to do with that.
alboboy10
11-04-2007, 11:42 AM
fol atehere, what does it have to do with? Austria having a better chance to win the world cup? Euro? Or is Austria his gateway to world class teams?
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 12:11 PM
fol atehere, what does it have to do with? Austria having a better chance to win the world cup? Euro? Or is Austria his gateway to world class teams?
Players don't get that much money for playing in the NT, maybe some bonuses for qualifying for the world cup/euro championsips (which Austria will never achieve)..other than that its just basic payments for playing in the NT.
besides he already plays for one of the best European teams (he's on loan at Crystal Palace right now), and easily gets over £2K/$4k a week already. It has nothing to do with money.
If anything he has certain obligations for Austria, since they're the ones who provided him with the training, spent money on him through Academies (which are extortionately high to run), through his schooling....and taught him how to be a better footballer.
If I was good enough to play for England, and Albania called me up....I would say fu'ck off to them, since they haven't done shit for me.
alboboy10
11-04-2007, 12:30 PM
there's a famous saying
ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 12:42 PM
suck my d'ick.
alboboy10
11-04-2007, 12:52 PM
I know you're not from Albania, like you said :)
shqypni
11-04-2007, 01:46 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Nah.. money is the last thing internationals have on their mind.
National teams are all about pride.. for example Cana was being offered by the French and Swiss NT's but he choose to represent his blood and family.. some other players do have other interests though like choosing a team that easily makes it to final tournaments..(cough Behrami) just so they can play in those tournaments
Nobody does it for money.. there is no money in international football unless you go very far
alboboy10
11-04-2007, 01:51 PM
Well, Cana CHOSE Albania because of pride.
Idrizaj obviously doesn't link himself with Albania that much
shqypni
11-04-2007, 01:55 PM
Who knows.. when did Idrizaj say he didnt want to play for Albania? I thought he did.. really but first he needs an Albanian passport and that takes a while to get. They also need to sort it with FIFA.. I remember Baric went there just for Idrizaj and some other player but I have no idea what happened
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 01:57 PM
Well, Cana CHOSE Albania because of pride.
Idrizaj obviously doesn't link himself with Albania that much
That's becuase he's from Dardania;)
Ask a dardanian where he is from or what nationality he is chances are he is going to say 'Kosovo' or Kosovan/r....
The only reason Cana chose Albania was because he knew it would be easy getting a starting place when he was still very young.If he was a teenage sensation or a highly rated youngster there is no doubt in my mind he would of chosen to play for the french NT.
The same goes for all the north Africans currently reprsenting France (Nasri,Benzema,Ben Arfa etc), they are all staunch nationalist and yet chose to play for France.
I didn't even include Zidane in that list, who sees himself as a proud Algerian first.
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 01:57 PM
P.S Albanian NT team sucks.
shqypni
11-04-2007, 01:59 PM
Does Sulejmani consider himself Kosovar even though he plays for Serbia? :D
alboboy10
11-04-2007, 02:00 PM
Does Sulejmani consider himself Kosovar even though he plays for Serbia? :D
Can't wait for teh answer to this one
shqypni
11-04-2007, 02:00 PM
P.S Albanian NT team sucks.
Yea, the great "Kosoven" will be much better
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 02:03 PM
Does Sulejmani consider himself Kosovar even though he plays for Serbia? :D
He sees himself as a Serb;)...he was born in serbia and grew up there.
Does panajot Kone (Panagiotis Kone) see himself as an Albanian, eventhough he plays for Greece.
And let's not even talk about Vangjeli(s)....who was sucking greek **** not long ago, or even Sotiri(s) Nini(s), who, like many tosks, sees himself as a Greek.
suck my ****.
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 02:04 PM
Yea, the great "Kosoven" will be much better
You are the biggest idiot known to man.
Please look at the English,German,Italian,Swedish,Norwegian,Belgian youth academies and see how many of them are from Albania;).....NONE.....most of them are from Dardania and NONE of them wanna play for Albanian NT.
Sucks to be an Albanian.
alboboy10
11-04-2007, 02:05 PM
Vangjeli is one of the best players Albania has at the moment, and he's wearing an Albania shirt don't use him as an example
the other two are sellouts, families don't want them playing for Albania
shqypni
11-04-2007, 02:06 PM
KLAkid your Turko/Serbish attitude of yours is showing again and the ironic part is that you were accusing stricklyhomo of it
How can you compare playing for Greece with playing for Serbia? if I grew up in Greece I would probably choose them .. why not? its not like they tried to genocide my people
alboboy10
11-04-2007, 02:08 PM
These two haven't grown up there shqypni...and tehy know they're Albanian, but their families won't let them
p.s. don't respond to klakid
shqypni
11-04-2007, 02:10 PM
These two haven't grown up there shqypni...and tehy know they're Albanian, but their families won't let them
p.s. don't respond to klakid
Their families care about the PAPERS thats why.. and thats for the Kone case. Nini grew up in Greece and I think he is GREEK.. just look at his face.. doesnt look Albanian at all
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 02:11 PM
KLAkid your Turko/Serbish attitude of yours is showing again and the ironic part is that you were accusing stricklyhomo of it
How can you compare playing for Greece with playing for Serbia? if I grew up in Greece I would probably choose them .. why not? its not like they tried to genocide my people
Well Kone and Ninis where born in Albania...and yet they betray us.
Sulejmani was born in Belgrade raised up in Serbia and wasn't affected by the war....he's not Albanian, he's been brainwashed beyond repair-some say he's even a kosovar with an ethnic Gorani background (his first name Miralem certainly conforms with this idea).
As I was saying, If Dardania has a sepaate football team.....say bye-bye to Albania ever acheiving anythng of note, since most of the Albanian yougnsters coming through the European ranks are of Dardan extraction.
shqypni
11-04-2007, 02:14 PM
As I was saying, If Dardania has a sepaate football team.....say bye-bye to Albania ever acheiving anythng of note, since most of the Albanian yougnsters coming through the European ranks are of Dardan extraction.
Good thing that will never EVER happen.. but even if it did(by some miracle) Albania has dozens of young promising talents in big Europeans clubs. Our youth teams U-19 and U-21 are doing great and they are mostly domestic players in them.. goes to show you that even Albania can produce talents.. we dont have to always look outside
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 02:15 PM
P.s I'm not against the Albanian NT and certainly don't want a separate Dardan NT, it's just that you queers annoy me when you call someone a traitor just because they're not playing for the Albanian NT....and all this when you don't know any of the implications to why they've refused to play for Albania.
alboboy10
11-04-2007, 02:17 PM
Their families care about the PAPERS thats why.. and thats for the Kone case. Nini grew up in Greece and I think he is GREEK.. just look at his face.. doesnt look Albanian at all
he's not, he's from himare...he's a sellout man, he's said it himself he's an Albanian but his family doesn't want him playing cause generally many himariots hate the Albanian government and the sports federations (fshf)
shqypni
11-04-2007, 02:17 PM
If Idrizaj doesnt want to play for Albania then he is a traitor just like Sulejmani, Kone, and Behrami!
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 02:18 PM
Good thing that will never EVER happen.. but even if it did(by some miracle) Albania has dozens of young promising talents in big Europeans clubs. Our youth teams U-19 and U-21 are doing great and they are mostly domestic players in them.. goes to show you that even Albania can produce talents.. we dont have to always look outside
No, Albania has NO very promising young talents in Europe. Dardania has MANY tht play for the U16,U-17,U-18,U-19,U-20,U-21 teams of different European countries.
shqypni
11-04-2007, 02:22 PM
he's not, he's from himare...he's a sellout man, he's said it himself he's an Albanian but his family doesn't want him playing cause generally many himariots hate the Albanian government and the sports federations (fshf)
His family left for Greece right after communism.. he couldve been from the Greek minority in Himare
I dont know, he doesnt look Albanian to me
No, Albania has NO very promising young talents in Europe. Dardania has MANY tht play for the U16,U-17,U-18,U-19,U-20,U-21 teams of different European countries.
bullshit!if you have no idea about these things,then shut the **** up,please!
here are some very promising young talents from albania playing in europe.and there are a much more in europe!
Nachname: Bregasi
Vorname: Deljan
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 22.01.1992
Jahrgang: 1992
Grösse: 194
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Torwart
Verein: Sampdoria Genua
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Cela
Vorname: Semiran
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 01.01.1989
Jahrgang: 1989
Grösse: 180
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Sturm
Verein: Stade Brest
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Corri
Vorname: Andy
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 27.03.1991
Jahrgang: 1991
Grösse: 173
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Abwehr
Verein: AC Mailand
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Cota
Vorname: Mirel
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 14.05.1988
Jahrgang: 1988
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Sturm
Verein: Ivrea Calcio
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Elezaj
Vorname: Entonio
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: ?
Jahrgang: 1996
Nationalität: Albanien
Position:
Verein: Juventus Turin
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Hoxha
Vorname: Fabio
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 07.05.1993
Jahrgang: 1993
Nationalität: Albanien
Position:
Verein: Piacenza Calcio
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Kabashi
Vorname: Elvis
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 20.02.1994
Jahrgang: 1994
Nationalität: Albanien
Position:
Verein: FC Empoli
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Koliqi
Vorname: Enea
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 13.12.1986
Jahrgang: 1986
Grösse: 186
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Torwart
Verein: Iraklis Saloniki
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Kondi
Vorname: Albi
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 04.01.1989
Jahrgang: 1989
Grösse: 179
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Sturm
Verein: Panionios Athen
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Kurosi
Vorname: Gentian
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 20.07.1988
Jahrgang: 1988
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Sturm
Verein: Rot-Weiss Ahlen
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Maci
Vorname: Artur
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 05.01.1996
Jahrgang: 1996
Nationalität: Albanien
Position:
Verein: FC Parma
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Malaj Kola
Vorname: Geri
Künstlername: Geri
Geburtsdatum: 14.10.1989
Jahrgang: 1989
Grösse: 185
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Sturm
Verein: Deportivo La Coruna
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Osmani
Vorname: Emiliano
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 08.10.1989
Jahrgang: 1989
Grösse: 186
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Sturm
Verein: Werder Bremen
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Pepsi
Vorname: Florent
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 14.05.1991
Jahrgang: 1991
Grösse: 170
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Mittelfeld
Verein: FC Basel
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Qehaj
Vorname: Albi
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 04.01.1993
Jahrgang: 1993
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Abwehr
Verein: AC Florenz
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Rrudho
Vorname: Xhulian
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 09.09.1987
Jahrgang: 1987
Grösse: 179
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Sturm
Verein: Chievo Verona
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Shiba
Vorname: Henri
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 16.03.1988
Jahrgang: 1988
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Sturm
Verein: Reggina Calcio
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Shtishi
Vorname: Kevin
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 21.07.1992
Jahrgang: 1992
Grösse: 173
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Sturm
Verein: FC Tirana
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Rama
Vorname: Renaldo
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 27.01.1990
Jahrgang: 1990
Grösse: ?
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Mittelfeld
Verein: Olympiakos Pireus
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Musabelliu
Vorname: Erald
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: ?
Jahrgang: 1991
Grösse: ?
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Mittelfeld
Verein: Panionios Athen
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Shkurti
Vorname: Vasil
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: ?
Jahrgang: 1992
Grösse: ?
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Mittelfeld
Verein: Ajax Amsterdam
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Cici
Vorname: Gjergji
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: 12.03.1989
Jahrgang: 1989
Grösse: ?
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Mittelfeld
Verein: Panathinaikos Athen
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Kapina
Vorname: Stefan
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum: ?
Jahrgang: 1993
Grösse: 187
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Portier
Verein: Panathinaikos Athen
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Nachname: Sejdo
Vorname: Xhino
Künstlername:
Geburtsdatum:
Jahrgang: 1992
Grösse: ?
Nationalität: Albanien
Position: Portier
Verein: AS Roma
A-Nationalspieler: nein
Emri: Serlind Curri
Pozicioni: Mbrojtes
Datelindja: 17.06.1993
Skuadra: Atalanta
Emri: Lori Kerri
Pozicioni: Sulmues
Datelindja: ??.??.1990
Skuadra: Verria
Emri: Edgar Cani
Shtetesia: Shqiptar, Italian
Datelindja: 22.07.1989
Pozicioni: Sulmues
Skuadra: Pescara
Emri: Klevis Kabashi
Pozicioni: Mesfushor
Datelindja: 27.08.1994
Skuadra: Empoli FC
Emri: Andi Corri
Pozicioni: Mbrojtes
Vendlindja: Shkoder
Datelindja: 27.03.1991
Skuadra: AC Milan
Emri: Florian Gjonaj
Pozicioni: Mesfushor
Vendlindja: Shkoder
Datelindja: 1990
Skuadra: AEK Athen
alboboy10
11-04-2007, 04:24 PM
His family left for Greece right after communism.. he couldve been from the Greek minority in Himare
I dont know, he doesnt look Albanian to me
he looks like a mix, he has somewhat of an albanian and greek look, but still, i guarantee you he's not any "greek minority"
bullshit!if you have no idea about these things,then shut the **** up,please!
here are some very promising young talents from albania playing in europe.and there are a much more in europe!
http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/agreement6.gif
mire ja bone, ja mbylle gojen http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/agreement5.gif
beside all these talents,there are also "non-albanian" talents from albania,playing in europe,like jurgen gjasula(st.gallen-switzerland),roland gercaliu(sturm graz-austria),sotir nini(panathinaikos-greece),elin dhimuco(panathinaikos-greece),panajot gjergji kone(aek-greece),etc.etc.
and a lot of albanian talents playing in the albanian championship like jahmir hyka(fk tirana),jetmir sefa(sk tirana),xhevair sukaj(vllaznia),enco mailindi(partizani),elis bakaj(partizani),arber abilaliaj(partizani),tefik osmani(partizani),andi lila(besa),erand hoxha(besa),ilirian caushaj(dinamo),eleandro pema(dinamo),erbim fagu(teuta),ermal gega(teuta),bledar hodo(teuta),bledion guga(flamurtari),erald guna(flamurtari),halim begaj(flamurtari),etc.etc.
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 04:44 PM
he looks like a mix, he has somewhat of an albanian and greek look, but still, i guarantee you he's not any "greek minority"
http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/agreement6.gif
mire ja bone, ja mbylle gojen http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/agreement5.gif
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you are such an idiot bro.
90% of those players that Zen posted are from DARDANIA, especially those playing for the German teams.
Damn, didn't know there where that many Dardanians repping it for DARDANIA abroad.
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 04:46 PM
bullshit!if you have no idea about these things,then shut the **** up,please!
here are some very promising young talents from albania playing in europe.and there are a much more in europe!
90% of them are from Kosova....and you can't call 8-15 year olds 'very promising'.....most of them will end up being decent, but not world class players.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you are such an idiot bro.
90% of those players that Zen posted are from DARDANIA, especially those playing for the German teams.
Damn, didn't know there where that many Dardanians repping it for DARDANIA abroad.
vazhdo ti te shofish endrra...
ça trapi qenke ti more?!shikoj emrat e atyre djemve nje here:a e ka emrin dikush nga ato labinot,apo besart,apo berat,kushtrim,apo ku di une,se çfare emrash keni ju kosovaret!
te gjithe ato çunat kane nenshtetesi shqiptare!
FallenAngeL
11-04-2007, 04:49 PM
90% of them are from Kosova....and you can't call 8-15 year olds 'very promising'.....most of them will end up being decent, but not world class players.
^^^^
ur a lil faggot......aint kosovart shqiptar anyways......get a life!!
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 04:52 PM
vazhdo ti te shofish endrra...
ça trapi qenke ti more?!shikoj emrat e atyre djemve nje here:a e ka emrin dikush nga ato labinot,apo besart,apo berat,kushtrim,apo ku di une,se çfare emrash keni ju kosovaret!
te gjithe ato çunat kane nenshtetesi shqiptare!
What the **** are you talking about, dude. I just said that most of the talented Albanians are from Dardania and that they will not play for the Albanian NT (unless of course they're not good enough for their adopted countries NT)...
I'm not saying Albanians from Kosova are any different from Albanians in Albania, we're just more talented when it comes to futboll and are not that interested for playing for the Albanian NT if we can play for our adopted country ie. germany,England,Switzerland etc...
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 04:52 PM
^^^^
ur a lil faggot......aint kosovart shqiptar anyways......get a life!!
Who said otherwise, you ****ing queer.
Go suck suck **** you ugly virgin.
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 04:54 PM
^^^^
ur a lil faggot......aint kosovart shqiptar anyways......get a life!!
Ps. you live in London and you should know the answer to this;
What do Kosovars say when someone asks them what nationality they are or where they from:D
The answer is Kosovan/Kosovo....they never say Albanian now go suck on a fruit.
What the **** are you talking about, dude. I just said that most of the talented Albanians are from Dardania and that they will not play for the Albanian NT (unless of course they're not good enough for their adopted countries NT)...
I'm not saying Albanians from Kosova are any different from Albanians in Albania, we're just more talented when it comes to futboll and are not that interested for playing for the Albanian NT if we can play for our adopted country ie. germany,England,Switzerland etc...
vazhdo te shofish endrra...vazhdo,se me endrra ndertohet gjith bota...
dardania keshtu,dardania ashtu...dardania nje mut eshte,asgje tjeter,e mos na çaj kot ****n ktu!
FallenAngeL
11-04-2007, 04:56 PM
Who said otherwise, you ****ing queer.
Go suck suck **** you ugly virgin.
u keep saying u lil cunt....
...dont eat toooo much shit now u ugly lil perverted whore.....F**K off now!!!!
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 04:57 PM
vazhdo te shofish endrra...vazhdo,se me endrra ndertohet gjith bota...
dardania keshtu,dardania ashtu...dardania nje mut eshte,asgje tjeter,e mos na çaj kot ****n ktu!
What dreams are you talking about you queer?
The only piece of shit is ALBANIA, no wonder no one wants to play for the Alb NT including Albs themsevles. (i.e Kone and Ninis)
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 04:59 PM
I'm going to bed, remember to thank Cana for choosing to play for the Albanian NT--when he could of done much better.
What dreams are you talking about you queer?
The only piece of shit is ALBANIA, no wonder no one wants to play for the Alb NT including Albs themsevles. (i.e Kone and Ninis)
than tell me,who's gonna play for Kossowo?!no one,because Kossowo would never have a NT!you guys can't even create a championship not to mention a NT!
FallenAngeL
11-04-2007, 05:00 PM
Ps. you live in London and you should know the answer to this;
What do Kosovars say when someone asks them what nationality they are or where they from:D
The answer is Kosovan/Kosovo....they never say Albanian now go suck on a fruit.
im saying 'SHQIPTAR' u PRICK......and i dont know se cka thoni ju cus i dont know any shqiptar te kosoves.....i didnt say that thay say they are from albania.......i dont give a shit what they say ......but they say they are SHQIPTAR.......but mabey u say ur a serb who knows.....**** OFF now u lil creep!!!
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 05:02 PM
than tell me,who's gonna play for Kossowo?!no one,because Kossowo would never have a NT!you guys can't even create a championship not to mention a NT!
I don't want a Kosovar NT, I'd much rather them play for the Albanian NT.
However you guys piss me of when you call Kosovars traitors just beause they never chose to play for the Albanian NT (A country they never stepped foot in).
Whereas you keep quiet on queers like Vangjelis,Ninis and Konis.
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 05:04 PM
im saying 'SHQIPTAR' u PRICK......and i dont know se cka thoni ju cus i dont know any shqiptar te kosoves.....i didnt say that thay say they are from albania.......i dont give a shit what they say ......but they say they are SHQIPTAR.......but mabey u say ur a serb who knows.....**** OFF now u lil creep!!!
No they don't say shqiptar, they say Kosovar when a foreigner is asking them what nationality they are.
They only say Shqiptar to other Albanians,lol.
Isn't it past your bed-time, virgin?
FallenAngeL
11-04-2007, 05:05 PM
^^^^^
NO u freak they aint traitors.......they are just playing for a team which they benefit more from.....but KOSOVAR are ALBANIAN.....or do u see urself as something else????
I don't want a Kosovar NT, I'd much rather them play for the Albanian NT.
However you guys piss me of when you call Kosovars traitors just beause they never chose to play for the Albanian NT (A country they never stepped foot in).
Whereas you keep quiet on queers like Vangjelis,Ninis and Konis.
i didn't say,kosovars are traitors.i just attact you,becaus you said,that kosovars are more talented,than albanians!thats not true!talents you have all over the world!
what's wrong with vangjeli?!he is at the moment the best albanian football-player,playing in the albanian NT!
FallenAngeL
11-04-2007, 05:07 PM
No they don't say shqiptar, they say Kosovar when a foreigner is asking them what nationality they are.
They only say Shqiptar to other Albanians,lol.
Isn't it past your bed-time, virgin?
look its the 15 year old .....perverted lil creep......i think its way past ur bedtime....seen as ur still in school.....
and faggot i dont care se cfar thoni......its ur choice....
...go to sleep now u lil shit
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 05:07 PM
^^^^^
NO u freak they aint traitors.......they are just playing for a team which they benefit more from.....but KOSOVAR are ALBANIAN.....or do u see urself as something else????
That's what I'm saying you ****ing retarded queer.
No I see myself as an Albanian first, I never say Kosovo when someone asks me where Im from...unfortunately the same can't be said for my Dardan compatriots.
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 05:09 PM
i didn't say,kosovars are traitors.i just attact you,becaus you said,that kosovars are more talentet,than albanians!thats not true!talents you have all over the world!
what's wrong with vangjeli?!he is at the moment the best albanian football-player,playing in the albanian NT!
What's wrong with Vangjeli, lol?
Isn't he the one that first refused to play for the Albanian NT so that he can play for the Greeks...but then later changed his mind and wanted to play for Albania(becuase he found out he wasnt good enough for Greece)
If I were the coach I wouldn't even pick him, just because he contemplated joining the NT of a country that we don't particularly like.
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 05:12 PM
i didn't say,kosovars are traitors.i just attact you,becaus you said,that kosovars are more talented,than albanians!thats not true!talents you have all over the world!
what's wrong with vangjeli?!he is at the moment the best albanian football-player,playing in the albanian NT!
Actually it is true; Kosovars are more talented than Albanians from Shqiperia...just check out the youth teams in certain countries and you'll find out.
Anyway it shouldn't matter seeing that we're both of the same blood.
I just stated a fact and you gays are busting my balls.
FallenAngeL
11-04-2007, 05:12 PM
That's what I'm saying you ****ing retarded queer.
No I see myself as an Albanian first, I never say Kosovo when someone asks me where Im from...unfortunately the same can't be said for my Dardan compatriots.
welll then lil wanker......y u eating shit for.........obviously they'd play for a team they benefit more from no matter if they are shqiptar te shqiperise, kosoves...mali te zi....or wherever......but if they choose to play per shqiperine its cuz oshte se e kane vendin e vet.....and not because they get paid that well....
...but u said that kosovart are more talented than albanians......as if kosovart aint albanian....
and i just said that they are albanian.....u creep
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 05:13 PM
You guys are the most retarded posters known to mankind;
I said the most talented ALBANIAN footballers are from Kosove.
If you put two and two together you'd find out what I mean.
What's wrong with Vangjeli, lol?
Isn't he the one that first refused to play for the Albanian NT so that he can play for the Greeks...but then later changed his mind and wanted to play for Albania(becuase he found out he wasnt good enough for Greece)
If I were the coach I wouldn't even pick him, just because he contemplated joining the NT of a country that we don't particularly like.
you don't know anything about this story...i was at that time in albania.the chief of the NT(besnik cela)and also artan bushati(coach of u21)wanted vangjeli to pay for the NT,that's why he first refused the albanian NT.but than baric called vangjeli and asked him to play for albania...
all these corruption-story was published in the albanian media,some days after vangjeli accepted to play for albania!and that's why,cela got fired from the fshf...
FallenAngeL
11-04-2007, 05:16 PM
You guys are the most retarded posters known to mankind;
I said the most talented ALBANIAN footballers are from Kosove.
If you put two and two together you'd find out what I mean.
^^^^
omg......ur the most perverted wierdo in this forum......u creep l!!!
anyways whos gives a shit......shqiptart where ever they are, ne shqiperi,kosove,mal te zi....are all the same they are all 'SHQIPTAR'....and im sure they are all equaly talented!!
Actually it is true; Kosovars are more talented than Albanians from Shqiperia...just check out the youth teams in certain countries and you'll find out.
Anyway it shouldn't matter seeing that we're both of the same blood.
I just stated a fact and you gays are busting my balls.
degjo o kosovar-koqevar!mos na çaj koqet ketu,se ja fut kot gjithemone!
shiko njehere ekipet zinxhire italiane apo greke!shefi i zyres per zbulimin e talenteve per greqine dhe italine ne nje interviste kishte thene,se ne ekipet zinxhire te AEK,panatinaikosit,olimpiakosit,etj.jane 20% te lojtareve nga shqiperia!
njesoj ne itali,ne shume ekipe zinxhire te milanos,juventusit,apo romes jane shqiptare(10-15%)!
e ku luajne ato te ashtuquajtur talentet koqevar?!te fc wil(ne ligen amatore te zvicres),apo te sv münsingen ne gjermani,ose ne suedi,norvegji apo finlande,qe kane vetem nje kampionat sa per te pasur nje,ku dihet,qe kampionati suedez apo finlandez nuk eshte fare me i forte,se aj shqiptar!
ti pa asnje baze argumentative ketu ja fut kot dhe thua,qe ju kosovaret qenket me te talentuar!e une ti prezantova ato talente,qe i kam gjetur vete (qe jane 1% e talenteve nga Shqiperia,qe luajne ne europe).na prezanto edhe ti tani ketu fakte!
ta thash nje here,dhe ta them perseri!talente ka nga shqiperia,nga kosova e ku di une njesoj,siç ka talente anglez apo hollandez!nese ti do te thuash,qe ju kosovaret qenket me te talentuar,dhe qenket "race" me e mir dhe me e forte,atehere nje nazist muti je!
shqypni
11-04-2007, 05:40 PM
What's wrong with Vangjeli, lol?
Isn't he the one that first refused to play for the Albanian NT so that he can play for the Greeks...but then later changed his mind and wanted to play for Albania(becuase he found out he wasnt good enough for Greece)
If I were the coach I wouldn't even pick him, just because he contemplated joining the NT of a country that we don't particularly like.
WTF?? lol Vangjeli first refused because some workers of our federation(Besnik Cela) abused him and wanted money from him. He was also pissed for not being called against Bulgaria/Slovenia first legs. When Cela was fired, Vangjeli came!
He had the Greek citizenship and could EASILY play for Greece.. they were dying to get him but he chose his real country and right now he is one of the BEST ALBANIAN PLAYERS
shqypni
11-04-2007, 05:41 PM
And as far as Kosovars being more talented LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO.. do you have any idea the young Albanian talents right now? abroad and DOMESTIC!
Zan, credit to you!
shqypni
11-04-2007, 05:43 PM
90% of them are from Kosova....and you can't call 8-15 year olds 'very promising'.....most of them will end up being decent, but not world class players.
Actually, 95% of the players he posted are from ALBANIA :)
AlboUS
11-04-2007, 05:51 PM
Eh hongshit k a r edhe ju nga Kosova/Dardania edhe ju nga Shqiperia qe beni dallime ketu,per shkak te njerezve si ju ne jemi ne kete situate te mjere tashti.Po a se shihni se po beni perqarje e asgje me shume.Po kujt i fishkellon k a r i se cilet jane me te mire,te gjithe jane Shqiptare,nese nuk e ndjejne vehten si Shqiptare dhe e shesin bythen per para dhe refuzojne te luajn per kombetaren tone ateher skan qka na duhen,vetem ne forumet Shqiptare shoh kesi lloj dallimesh dhe perqarjesh.Keni filluar te beni si sllavo-maqedonasit me bullgaret,disa thone se jan bullgar disa thon se jane "maqedonas",kur te gjithe e dime se e kane nje gjuhe edhe nje kulture.
FallenAngeL
11-04-2007, 05:57 PM
^^^^
thank you........theres no difference what so ever....shqipetar jane so theres no difference between us at all!!
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 06:00 PM
degjo o kosovar-koqevar!mos na çaj koqet ketu,se ja fut kot gjithemone!
shiko njehere ekipet zinxhire italiane apo greke!shefi i zyres per zbulimin e talenteve per greqine dhe italine ne nje interviste kishte thene,se ne ekipet zinxhire te AEK,panatinaikosit,olimpiakosit,etj.jane 20% te lojtareve nga shqiperia!
njesoj ne itali,ne shume ekipe zinxhire te milanos,juventusit,apo romes jane shqiptare(10-15%)!
e ku luajne ato te ashtuquajtur talentet koqevar?!te fc wil(ne ligen amatore te zvicres),apo te sv münsingen ne gjermani,ose ne suedi,norvegji apo finlande,qe kane vetem nje kampionat sa per te pasur nje,ku dihet,qe kampionati suedez apo finlandez nuk eshte fare me i forte,se aj shqiptar!
ti pa asnje baze argumentative ketu ja fut kot dhe thua,qe ju kosovaret qenket me te talentuar!e une ti prezantova ato talente,qe i kam gjetur vete (qe jane 1% e talenteve nga Shqiperia,qe luajne ne europe).na prezanto edhe ti tani ketu fakte!
ta thash nje here,dhe ta them perseri!talente ka nga shqiperia,nga kosova e ku di une njesoj,siç ka talente anglez apo hollandez!nese ti do te thuash,qe ju kosovaret qenket me te talentuar,dhe qenket "race" me e mir dhe me e forte,atehere nje nazist muti je!
OK first of all the % you have provided are a gross exaggeration. There is no way that the youth academies of the top teams in Serie A have 15-20% of Albanians training for them. If that was the case atleast 1 ALBANIAN would of made a breakthrough and played for a Serie A team....so far not even one Albanian who was brought up the Italian youth system has played in Serie A. However in Germany where Dardanians have been living in for only 10 years (they came in their droves after the war), have already made the breakrthough in the Bundesliga.Furthermore Astrit Ajdarevic (liverpool) and Ajet Shehu (Tottenham) are expected to make their Premiership bow in the next few years. The same goes for the Swiss,Swedish,Norwegian etc... league. Now I know these leagues aren;t the best in the world but this is where most of the Dardanian diaspora live.
Anyway I didn't mean most of the things I've said today; just that you guys pissed me off by calling people traitors when you dont know of their circumstances.
Since you claim that we have so much talent in Greece and Italy it'll be interesting to see if the most talented shqiptars in the Greek Superleague and Serie A actually decide to play for the Albanian NT or actually stick with their adopted country.
I guess time will tell.
As for me being a 'Nazi' and claiming that the Kosovar 'race' has more talented players....I still stick by that statement, because I truly believe us Albanians from Kosova are better at football than those from Shqiperia, it has nothing to do with genetics since we are made of the same shit, but more to do with the fact that we take a more active interest in the sport.
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 06:03 PM
Actually, 95% of the players he posted are from ALBANIA :)
Yeah the ones that are playing in Serie A and in Greece are Albanians...with some exceptions such as the Elezaj guy that plays for Juve....he's a dard.
As for the rest they're Dardanians.
It's a 50/50 split, however it doesn't include many Dardan talents that play in England,Germany etc....as their nationality is usually and incorrectly cited as 'Serbian'.
shqypni
11-04-2007, 06:08 PM
Have you seen a Kosovar league match and an Albania league match? do you see the difference between the 2 leagues? Now you're gonna tell me that Albanian league had more time to develop but that has nothing to do with the TALENT of the players. The Kosova league produces 0 talents.. they are not even good enough to play in the Albania league for God's sake. The Albanian league produces tons of talents(especially lately)
Albania has much, much more young talents in good European clubs..
Geri Malaj - Deportivo La Coruna
Andi Corri - AC Milan
Bregasi - Sampdora
Hyka - Olympiakos(soon seria A)
and dozen of others..
Kosova only has Idrizaj who plays in a second division.. please what talent are you talking about? LMAOOOOOOOOO
albobatman.
11-04-2007, 06:17 PM
Have you seen a Kosovar league match and an Albania league match? do you see the difference between the 2 leagues? Now you're gonna tell me that Albanian league had more time to develop but that has nothing to do with the TALENT of the players. The Kosova league produces 0 talents.. they are not even good enough to play in the Albania league for God's sake. The Albanian league produces tons of talents(especially lately)
Albania has much, much more young talents in good European clubs..
Geri Malaj - Deportivo La Coruna
Andi Corri - AC Milan
Bregasi - Sampdora
Hyka - Olympiakos(soon seria A)
and dozen of others..
Kosova only has Idrizaj who plays in a second division.. please what talent are you talking about? LMAOOOOOOOOO
Who cares about the Kosovar league....LMAOOO, it has no set-up, no structure, no money, no training facilities etc...
Ps, Hyka is not a talent...he's average and at his age should be playing regularly for a good club. He cant even get a starting berth for the Albanian NT.
The same goes for Malaj, another good player but nothing special.
Idrizaj?....wtf are you talking about he's shit, LOOOOLL.
We have Astrit Ajdarevic(Hajdari) who is one of the better youth players in the Liverpool academy, which probably has the best youngsters in the world right now.There is also Miralem Sulejmani who is already in the first team of the Heerenveen squad at the tender age of 18, however I'd rather not talk about him.
Anyway enough talking we'll see in 5-10 years how these players turn out and whether they will pick the Albanian NT over their adopted country.
Anyway enough arguing man, let's hope they all play for the Albanian NT and see how far it'll get us.
Who cares about the Kosovar league....LMAOOO, it has no set-up, no structure, no money, no training facilities etc...
Ps, Hyka is not a talent...he's average and at his age should be playing regularly for a good club. He cant even get a starting berth for the Albanian NT.
The same goes for Malaj, another good player but nothing special.
Idrizaj?....wtf are you talking about he's shit, LOOOOLL.
We have Astrit Ajdarevic(Hajdari) who is one of the better youth players in the Liverpool academy, which probably has the best youngsters in the world right now.There is also Miralem Sulejmani who is already in the first team of the Heerenveen squad at the tender age of 18, however I'd rather not talk about him.
Anyway enough talking we'll see in 5-10 years how these players turn out and whether they will pick the Albanian NT over their adopted country.
Anyway enough arguing man, let's hope they all play for the Albanian NT and see how far it'll get us.
ajdarevic(or hajdari)is from preshevo,not kosovo...
sulejmani(or sulimani),was born in belgrade,grown up there and plays for serbia.and is i've read long time ago,his parents are from macedonia and not kosovo...
what goes to hyka:he is 18 or 19 years old,and very good for his age...
malaj is only 17 years old and made his debut with the first squad of deportivo months ago!
albobatman.
11-05-2007, 09:54 AM
Who gives a **** about where his parents are from, Hajdari was born in Kosove.
As for Sulejmani please look at his pic and tell me his not Albanian;
http://www.jelenfootball.com/igrac/3057/slike/igraci/igrac-3057.jpg
MACEDONIANS DO NOT LOOK LIKE THAT.
and Geri Malaj is 18, not 17.
Who gives a **** about where his parents are from, Hajdari was born in Kosove.
As for Sulejmani please look at his pic and tell me his not Albanian;
http://www.jelenfootball.com/igrac/3057/slike/igraci/igrac-3057.jpg
MACEDONIANS DO NOT LOOK LIKE THAT.
and Geri Malaj is 18, not 17.
actually,you are right with malaj.
i didn't say,sulejmani isn't albanian,i just said,he is from macedonia...and as you may know,in macedonia you have also albanians...
what goes to hajdari:he wasn't born in kosovo,but in preshevo.beside this,you are talking here about kosovars,and you are only kosovar,if you parents are kosovars.otherwise we have to consider all albanians,born in greece as greeks,or all kosovars born in germany as germans!
[QUOTE=albobatman.;321430]Yeah the ones that are playing in Serie A and in Greece are Albanians...with some exceptions such as the Elezaj guy that plays for Juve....he's a dard.QUOTE]
entonio doesn't sound like a typicly kosovar name...entionio elezaj is albanian,he isn't a kosovar...
albobatman.
11-05-2007, 01:32 PM
I thought the surname Elezaj was only found in Kosova; I might be wrong though.
I thought the surname Elezaj was only found in Kosova; I might be wrong though.
in albania,especially in shkoder,lezhe,diber/peshkopi you have a lot of families with the surname elezaj...
Imazhi
11-06-2007, 04:11 PM
Ps. you live in London and you should know the answer to this;
What do Kosovars say when someone asks them what nationality they are or where they from:D
The answer is Kosovan/Kosovo....they never say Albanian now go suck on a fruit.
I'm a "kosovar" a term that doesn't exist from Skenderaj. More like an Albanian from Kosova. I would be ashamed to be called a "kosovar" infront of Albanian.
You just made yourself look like these serbs who prefer to call themselves yugos instead of serbs due to their bad rumour. Nncncnccncnn...
Imazhi
11-06-2007, 04:24 PM
About all these talents. I'll say that every Albanian. Be that from Albania, Kosova, Cameria, Illirida e.c that says no to the Albanian NT should not be called a traitor if he has decided to play for another country where he grew up and got his football skills.
But a player like f.e.x Behrami who stated multiple times that "Albania is my dream" bla.bla... et.c could be stated as a pure traitor. Nini didn't want to play for Albania and was rased in Greece so it's quite a natural decision to go and play for them. Whilst Kone was born in Tirana and lived in Albania for a while before moving to Greece, in such cases he's also a traitor. The same goes out to Gercalliu.
Miralem Sulejman is a Goran. NOT albanian.
I clearly don't see why you make a difference from where an Albanian comes. It's like saying, no he's from Prishtina or he's from Shkodra. Such stupidness are rare to be seen. We should be proud that we have Albanians from different areas playing for us and just hope that another one from Illirida (Ramadani, Nexhipi, Demiri) or Mali i Zi joins us to complete the version of:
UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA!
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